Yes I imagined that. But is the only way to make codes directly from the console. It may be insanely difficult to make a clean and perfect code like the ones anyone can create through a debugger like HazeMD.
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Nop, even then i don't think they're perfect either. You have to test them thru all the game to be sure they will work "perfect". There are games that can have a code for each style of level, others with a value for each things (3 ninjas). And then those that can be made with a simple branch. So pretty much to be sure you have to always test them completely, but it's true that the probability for one of these to fail are much more low.
But with directly changing already made codes you can come with one like the infinite time for turbo outrun, there are one, that seems to work and then the game crash at the second level. These last thing is what i tried to say. When i looked at it, it was wrong.
But is really amezing how he can come with something, even sometimes with such presice changes in the values."Dizzy my future, silly my way."
"Under my flag I live free."
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98 % of the codes maked through a debugger works perfectly in the entire game. There's little games that need a different code for each level. And if its neccesary, maybe you just create 3 or 10 more codes. Whats the problem about that?. Creating them just guessing with a real game genie will be very difficult, right?. Thats my point.Originally posted by VisitntX View PostNop, even then i don't think they're perfect either. You have to test them thru all the game to be sure they will work "perfect". There are games that can have a code for each style of level, others with a value for each things (3 ninjas). And then those that can be made with a simple branch. So pretty much to be sure you have to always test them completely, but it's true that the probability for one of these to fail are much more low.
But with directly changing already made codes you can come with one like the infinite time for turbo outrun, there are one, that seems to work and then the game crash at the second level. These last thing is what i tried to say. When i looked at it, it was wrong.
But is really amezing how he can come with something, even sometimes with such presice changes in the values.
Any way you use to make the codes is valid. The important thing is obtaining the desired effect. The debugger method seems to be very realiable because of his relative simplicity, most of the times you only spend a few minutes to hack the game. And codes maked with it are "clean" because you alter the especific region of the rom where the code does the effect you want to avoid. And you replace one opcode with another opcode, avoiding possible freezes in the game or bugs or glitches.
Some people prefers a cola drink, another ones just juice and maybe someone likes to drink beer. All of them are correct in his actions and all of them obtains the same result : to extinguish the thirst.
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Whipon.Last edited by Whipon; 10-06-2007, 09:22:38 PM.
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Whipon, I think you're misunderstanding what I tried to say.
First, I wasn't saying that what he does is bad or worthless.
I was pointing a fact, you can take it or leave it but not
denay it. I'm no one to judge what other people do. If he
already knew that what I wrote was only a waste of words,
nothing more. And if he didn't know it, now he do. That's all.
Second, I didn't mean only games with DMA. There are lot of
games with strange things, even Mr. Nutz has his ways with
the lives. So I still think that with only changing one
opcode with another isn't enough. Maybe for you is fine, and
you can make all the number of codes you want to, but a real
game genie only lets you imput 5 codes maximum. So when I
do them I have this in mind, there are a lot of people
using real hardware, and I try to make them the more compatible
possible. Try to deal with registers with less than 5
codes sometimes is not that easy like it seems. So like you
see there are less than 98% of games that will work only
changing one instruction for another.
And believe me, there are still bugs, maybe insignificant, but
sometimes they're still there.
I'm not saying nothing wrong, nor trying to be mean or rude.
And I already said that what he does is amazing, I surely
couldn't make it with his method.
This is the last thing I will write about this matter
because I don't want that the thread of damin becomes
a shitty thing.
And I don't know, but it seems that you're taking this
on personal, If that's true, please let me know why, but not
here, send a mail to me. People than have to be annoyed with
these stupid things.
And if I made feel someone bad I ask him pardon, it wasn't what
i was trying to say.
By the way, I don't get it the thing with the drinks. Coke still
makes you thirsty (more), like other sodas. But I still like
it anyway.
So, keep it up damin."Dizzy my future, silly my way."
"Under my flag I live free."
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Take it easy
I'll try to be short:
1) I never have taken this thread personal, or anything.
2) Take it easy, this is a forum and we can express our opinions. If somebody dislikes any of my words, then they have the right to express it here too.
3) I still believe that most games only need a few codes as much.
4) Real hardware is great. If the real Game Genie and his 5 codes isn't enough, then try the Tototek products.
5) I have said that the daminmancejin method is awesome and that I admire him for his skill.
6) This forum will not become a shitty thing because we differ in in our opinions. Take it easy man, I don't came here to fight, just to learn and have fun.
The drinks phrase?. I was triying to say that there's a lot of ways to make the same thing, its a free choice and everyone is right.
I'd never tried to say anything about what you think about the ways of others.
Thank you.
Whipon.
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Invincibility(Flash)Last edited by daminmancejin; 10-11-2007, 05:06:48 PM.
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