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  • HP Brings Back Windows 7 By Popular Demand As Buyers Shun 8

    HP sticks thumb in Microsoft's eye, discounts consumer Windows 7 PC's

    By Gregg Keizer

    Computerworld - Hewlett-Packard today launched a new online promotion that discounts several consumer PCs by $150 when equipped with Windows 7, saying the four-year-old OS is "back by popular demand."

    "The reality is that there are a lot of people who still want Windows 7," said Bob O'Donnell, chief analyst at Technalysis Research, in a Monday interview. "This is a twist, though, and may appeal to those who said, 'I do want a new PC, but I thought I couldn't get Windows 7.'"

    HP has not discarded Windows 8.1 -- the perception-plagued dual-UI operating system -- nor resurrected Windows 7 from the crypt: The PC seller, like every other OEM (original equipment manufacturer) in Microsoft's orbit, has never stopped selling Windows 7.

    But HP was the first major OEM -- it was the world's second-largest in the fourth quarter of 2013, according to research firm IDC -- to blatantly market Windows 7 PC's to consumers since Windows 8's first few months, said O'Donnell.

    HP's selection of Windows 7 consumer-grade machines is small, just five models: Two notebooks and three desktops, with discounted prices starting at $480 and topping out at $1,000. By comparison, HP listed 68 different Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 laptop, desktop and hybrid models on its for-consumer website Monday.

    On the business side, HP and others, including No. 1 Lenovo and No. 3 Dell, continue to market Windows 7-powered PCs first, Windows 8 and 8.1 systems second, recognizing that corporations will stick with the 2009 OS for years to come.

    From O'Donnell's viewpoint, HP's move was not so much an admission that Windows 8 and 8.1 are flawed -- even though he argued they are -- but an attempt to grab sales wherever it can after a year when PC shipments plunged 10% and are projected to slide again in 2014. By IDC's estimate, HP's U.S. shipments fell 12.3% last quarter compared to the year prior, while Dell's and Lenovo's climbed 5.6% and 10.8%, respectively.

    Dell and Lenovo rely much less on sales to consumers, who have declined to buy new PC's as they shift to tablets, than does HP.

    The promotion reminded O'Donnell and others of the dark days of Windows Vista, when customers avoided Windows 7's predecessor and instead clamored for the older Windows XP on their new PC's.

    Then, customers who had heard mostly negative comments about Vista from friends, family and the media, decided they would rather work with the devil they knew rather than the new one they did not.

    "It's not a perfect comparison," said O'Donnell, of equating Windows 8 with Vista, "but the perception of Windows 8 is negative. I said early on that Windows 8 could clearly be Vista Version 2, and that seems to have happened."

    Others, both professional analysts and independent pundits, have linked Vista and Windows 8 on the flop-o-meter.

    "But the timing of this seems a bit odd. I thought vendors might have done this last year," said O'Donnell


    HP claimed that it was bringing back consumer PCs equipped with Windows 7 "by popular demand." (Image: Hewlett-Packard.)
    The Hackmaster

  • #2
    Microsoft always allows you to downgrade one version when buying a new PC. I work for an IT consulting firm, and we have always bought HP's with Win 7 since 8 came out, since it's best for business users and we don't need more calls about how people can't find the start button.

    Windows 8 is not that bad, people.
    Please put all complaints in writing and submit them here.

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    • #3
      I didn't know that. I'm in the market for a new PC, and I kept putting it off because I didn't want Windows 8.
      The Hackmaster

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      • #4
        Maybe it's different in the consumer market, but as a Microsoft and HP partner we can still get Win7 no problem.
        Please put all complaints in writing and submit them here.

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        • #5
          It is different. From Walmart to Best Buy, most of the new PC's are Windows 8. Sucks, Bites, and Blows.
          The Hackmaster

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          • #6
            Since you're hellbent on shunning win8, why don't you get a non-oem machine and use a previous win7 license?
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            • #7
              Don't have one. I'm using Vista right now, got this computer 11/28/07, and it's on its last legs.

              I also have a Windows XP license that I never used and a Windows 95 Gateway 2000 that I found in the trash. I use that with my GameSharks and GSCC.
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              • #8
                Most of the people I've talked to like Windows 8.1 well enough after they get used to it. I haven't had the pleasure myself. I really don't think it can be that bad. All of the smack talked about it just sounds like my users, when they don't like that we reorganized things so that certain data is stored much more sensibly because the new UI panel requires them to move their eye three millimeters.

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                • #9
                  Really dlevere, you can do whatever you want and I won't try to change your mind. But honestly, I'm not sure how you can use Vista for so long and talk about how bad 8 is. No matter if you get 7 or 8, you will love not using that crappy OS anymore.
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                  • #10
                    What pisses me off is that in windows 8 it's obviously geared towards touch screen enabled devices but stand alone laptops without touch screens don't need the tiles on by default although I know it's the systems main draw. If there was a way to choose to load the desktop on bootup I wouldn't mind it so much but giving it time one can get accustomed to it eventually like any new OS changes that come with the next generation. I think another thing that bothers me even more than the OS which I can get used to and work with is the UEFI system, why can't I boot off the damn cd/dvd or USB? or to get into the BIOS you have to be fast as hell hitting the right button.
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                    THE BAD GUY!!!!!!

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                    • #11
                      Helder, good point! I have Windows 7 on my laptop and my PC in my room. My mom just got a brand new computer and it has Windows 8 on it, and I don't like it at all. Windows 7 is soooo much better.

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                      • #12
                        Whats makin those so special it just how faque they looks, you should try win95 and see hows prety fast plus good as win98 and more compatible direcx as winxp plus how laqing as winvista aswell they can call anydood usin win5 anyae dood win6 is pretty small plus incompatible like win7 so win8 .1 patch will make jo bankurpt dood!
                        So you have no choice for usin invicibly linux forever.
                        Dood
                        dood! im a uniter, not a divider dood

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Helder View Post
                          If there was a way to choose to load the desktop on bootup I wouldn't mind it so much but giving it time one can get accustomed to it eventually like any new OS changes that come with the next generation.
                          With Classic Shell, this is possible.
                          I only bother with things that interest me.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Helder View Post
                            What pisses me off is that in windows 8 it's obviously geared towards touch screen enabled devices but stand alone laptops without touch screens don't need the tiles on by default although I know it's the systems main draw. If there was a way to choose to load the desktop on bootup I wouldn't mind it so much but giving it time one can get accustomed to it eventually like any new OS changes that come with the next generation. I think another thing that bothers me even more than the OS which I can get used to and work with is the UEFI system, why can't I boot off the damn cd/dvd or USB? or to get into the BIOS you have to be fast as hell hitting the right button.
                            Yeah, I agree with all of that. I've gotten used to the metro style though. I have two touch screen laptops and a touch screen desktop at work, and I still end up using the mouse most of the time.

                            FYI I just typed this response on my Macbook Pro.
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                            • #15
                              HP ENVY Phoenix 810-135qe Desktop PC with Windows 7 (ENERGY STAR)

                              It doesn't say what graphics card it has.
                              The Hackmaster

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