Bone to pick w/ ugetab

[Cryptone]

Wow we have something in common

[VisitntX]

ugetab, religion is something that we all get to hate. They're ruling the world since the beggining of time. In all religions, sometimes it becomes for them necessary to use the force to make them strongers. They use the fear to make ppl into them. They tell, if you don't be good you will be going to hell. Or be afraid of God, cuz he is love, but also he can be bad with bad ppl.
And then teachers. I almost punched two of them. I hate when you ask to them something (cuz they are there to teach you) and they look at you with despective way, like if they were the greatest ppl in the world and you just an idiot. But there are also really good of them, that not only teach you about a subject but also with good advice. Is like all in the life, there will be good ppl and bad ppl.
Cryptone, it was an old phrase my grandmother used to tell. It was in italian, there is not an equal saying in english. Is hard to make it clear. But with a little of thinking you can get the idea.

[scarface200729]

"I'm against forcing others to follow my philosophies."

I have to believe tagging people with a "shameful" Rune follower tag is a way of punishing someone who doesn't conform to your beliefs. In a way, forcing them to adapt, or be quiet, before the inevitable ban.

[Lazy Bastard]

What VisitntX was implying was, I believe, that you are who you hang out with, or at least, most of the time.

[VisitntX]

Exactly.

[ugetab]

What do you think would happen if
1. I tagged you a rune supporter
2. I didn't ban you
and
3. Everyone could see who you're made out to be when you post something

If you're not banned, and you do nothing to sustain one, you're able to keep going on like usual, if it's setup right. If you get tagged a rune supporter, the main idea is to thwart any attempts at subterfuge. Either you've got your own distinguishable opinions, or you default to having rune's. If everyone can see that you're believed to be supporting rune, it won't be hard to start from that stance when reading a message from you, which is in support of making people look for your reasoning beyond the complexity of 'i liek cheese'.

[Cryptone]

What do you think would happen if
1. I tagged you a rune supporter
2. I didn't ban you
and
3. Everyone could see who you're made out to be when you post something

If you're not banned, and you do nothing to sustain one, you're able to keep going on like usual, if it's setup right. If you get tagged a rune supporter, the main idea is to thwart any attempts at subterfuge. Either you've got your own distinguishable opinions, or you default to having rune's. If everyone can see that you're believed to be supporting rune, it won't be hard to start from that stance when reading a message from you, which is in support of making people look for your reasoning beyond the complexity of 'i liek cheese'.

But, the thing is that that is different from what I'm saying (it's hard for me to describe what I'm saying). This conversation is making my philosphies way to complex. So let's just put as everyone has their own opinion and that being stereotypical shouldn't happen. And let's just start over again.

What VisitntX was implying was, I believe, that you are who you hang out with, or at least, most of the time.

I think that only happens 50% of the time.

[MIR]

hmm like fire but are cautious. sounds more like a Pyro than a Arsonist.

Edit: lost track of the conversation <.<

[Astraea]

Yeah, bla bla bla...

[ugetab]

Some large, growling dogs bite if you pet them. Does this mean you should ignore the stereotype about growling dogs, and pet them anyways? People who disagree with how GSHI is run without providing any reasons, and proclaim any support of GSC are generally here just to cause trouble. I tend not to ignore that connection, as you wouldn't ignore growling after the first or second(or third mr. slow learner?) time you got bitten, chased, or otherwise driven away by a growling dog.

In case of slow learner:
The post I put up with rune's info is something his site removes if it's added. It's also bait to anyone who's dumb enough to think that harassing people in the thread will get it removed, which also means it would attract the idiots at GSC to some degree. You don't hear about the regular, neutral users from GSC because they generally don't proclaim any support of GSC, while in the same post bashing GSHI. If this is too complex for the reader, please renew your efforts at studying math, and practice memory techniques more often. If possible, learn a programming language. Learning to work with significant areas of any type of ASM will improve your hard logic considerably.

[scarface200729]

"Either you've got your own distinguishable opinions, or you default to having rune's."

I like that, either you got your own ideas, or if you support rune then those aren't your ideas, they are his. Supporting Rune (or anyone) doesn't mean that you can't have your own reason for doing so. It's a blanketed statement trying to imply anyone supporting a certain person is basically a zombie and can't make up their own mind, which isn't true.

BTW, I'm pretty sure I provided reasons why GSHI could be run differently. If you guys like to do it the slow way and have a database that grows in the slightest and call yourself the most successful website, then that's your thing. This site could at least shoot to be the best at something, at least have a complete retro database so you can call yourself the most complete site in that area and let Rune have all the kids that want the new codes for the new systems. Otherwise this site pretty much is just an alternative and not a first stop when looking for codes.

[MIR]

First of all i doubt we call ourselves "the most sucessful website" like some idiots do. this is an unfeasble feat to do. anyone who say they have "THE BEST" site are liars. Tell me a number count of the active hackers on GSC. Also tell me what system of information is avalible on GSC for those who want to learn how to make codes. when i was there there was little or none. there where only 3 active hackers and the rest where posting codes from other sites an then those codes where put in an "update".

The post I put up with rune's info is something his site removes if it's added. It's also bait to anyone who's dumb enough to think that harassing people in the thread will get it removed, which also means it would attract the idiots at GSC to some degree. You don't hear about the regular, neutral users from GSC because they generally don't proclaim any support of GSC, while in the same post bashing GSHI. If this is too complex for the reader, please renew your efforts at studying math, and practice memory techniques more often. If possible, learn a programming language. Learning to work with significant areas of any type of ASM will improve your hard logic considerably.

The only reason i found this site as i have mentioned before is that GSHI pops up in the top 20 google hits for "dirt on Rune" tho i believe Kodewerx has a majority now. I stuck with this site not because they update or are "THE BEST" but more for the fact that the site focuses on the direction i wanted to take in my gaming experience.

there are several member types that i see.

1. staff (active/inactive)
2. Active hackers
3. inactive hackers
4. interested parties in the involvement of code making
5. lurkers
6. Trolls (trollytrollytroll ;P)
7. spammers
8. assholes

some people are a combination of those.

[ugetab]

The reason I made that blanket statement was because, before now, that's the only type of person I saw who claimed to be 'with' GSC, and who said bad things about GSHI on this board. Some people have claimed to visit GSC. Other people than those have said negative things about the site on their own. But, for those claiming to (visit GSC / be from GSC), with the addition of (making negative comments about GSHI), I've only seen trouble caused by such doubly-afflicted individuals. People are free to have both of the above qualities, but it wouldn't make sense to ignore a trend that had a 100% jerk rate for the people who made negative statements, and claimed some affiliation with GSC. I believe it was Mir who got on my case for thinking I'd made a negative statement that concerned them, but I have, again, stipulated the Pro-GSC+Anti-GSHI connection. Those who have that quality tend to be a nuisance. I don't know how many other ways I can put it except "See above for slow learner section"

Also...
"Either you've got your own distinguishable opinions, or you default to having rune's."

By that, I meant that you either provide your own opinions, or they default to rune's. Please remember to take that context back to the original post before trying to elaborate on it differently.

[Cryptone]

Some large, growling dogs bite if you pet them. Does this mean you should ignore the stereotype about growling dogs, and pet them anyways? People who disagree with how GSHI is run without providing any reasons, and proclaim any support of GSC are generally here just to cause trouble. I tend not to ignore that connection, as you wouldn't ignore growling after the first or second(or third mr. slow learner?) time you got bitten, chased, or otherwise driven away by a growling dog.

1. I'm not a slow learner.
2. I'm not disagreeing with how GSHI is run, just what you did.
3. I can support both GSC and GSHI.
4. I'm not going to believe that Rune is bad or that most of it's codes are stolen from others until I get good enough proof for me. You guys can believe what you want with the evidence you have so far.

[MIR]

3. I can support both GSC and GSHI.

Be careful with that. that is walking a thin line with Rune. You will probably get banned for advertising for doing that.

4. I'm not going to believe that Rune is or that most of it's codes are stolen from othersbad until I get good enough proof for me. You guys can believe what you want with the evidence you have so far.

I wish you the best of luck. i haven't seen this "code stealing" at all. i have seen unauthorized use of codes when a request from the creator has been made to take them down has been ignored due to differentiating ideology.

2. I'm not disagreeing with how GSHI is run, just what you did.

What was done was not the greatest. It is resolved due to the more professional nature of this site.