Man kills himself by jumping into a live volcano

[dlevere]

Man, 38, kills himself by jumping 250 feet into a Hawaii volcano crater after leaving a suicide note in the backpack he dumped nearby

[bungholio]

Makes me think of Japan, except I'm not sure if they jump into a live volcano or just jump off of a well known mountain or what it was.

[dlevere]

The only thing that I'm going to jump into is my bed when I go to sleep.

You think that I'm going to fall 250 feet into a volcano? I think not.

I don't know what the fuck this guy was thinking about, I just hope that he would of had someone who could see the suicidal signs and get him some help and told somebody.

[bungholio]

I'm not certain of how suicide prevention stuff works in various states/countries. I ended up at a suicide treatment center sort of place half a year ago. If I weren't jobless on medicaid at the time, I'd have given up on life in the place just looking at the bill that medicaid covered once they released me. A +$2000 ambulance ride to the place across the street from where I live is absurd when we can just walk out the door and across the street or strap my in their seat and wheel me over, and bill after bill showing hundreds or thousands paid by medicaid. It was a very nice experience just yacking with the other people there who were at a rock bottom point in their lives from depression/suicide/drug addictions/mental illness/life going straight to hell/whatever. I expected the food to be like the cardboard-tasting hospital food, but for some unexpected reason it was easily some of the best food I've had in my life. Staff were great and I had fun luring them into playing a hand of Uno or whatever card game we were playing at the moment. Yack with people, watch TV, drag everyone around me into various board games like Monopoly or Sorry or card games, talk with whatever staff, it was strangely one of the nicest moments of my life.

In the end though, all I did was waste a bunch of medicaid's money because they tried putting me on 3 medications that I have no hope of affording. 1 was fine and helped me sleep, 1 other worried staff because it cranked my pulse and blood pressure far higher than it's ever been in my life and looked dangerously high to them so they were checking my vitals every hour for about 3 days, and the 3rd didn't seem to affect anything. I ran out of meds right away without noticing even the slightest effect the entire time, I couldn't afford them, and I went back to my old super cheap full price sleeping meds and didn't leave in any much better state than I went in. I'm not even certain any of the staff believed a word I said, some gave me a "WTF" look like I was making things up.

Some people were very lonely and drank heavily or did whatever drugs to cope, some were hooked on drugs they can't get away from that was destroying their lives, some grew up in hell and just gave up because they were trapped at a dead end that looked like it could only get worse, some I have no idea why they were there, some gave up on humanity as a whole and became intolerant of others, some had mental illnesses, it was a large variety.

Some of the places may have a frightening reputation based on actual reputation or just the garbage that runs through our heads when we see a movie like Shutter Island or One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, and either way you will always be imprisoned there for a few days whether you want to leave or not with a 72 hour suicide watch and then whenever staff decide it's OK to let you go.

From the random lazy research I've read over time, most people just need to find the right pill out of the thousand different pills to pick from, and they all take weeks to months before you might even notice them doing anything if they even do anything at all because not everybody metabolizes every pill. The pills carry various crazy side effects and may kill you or drive you over the edge and make you kill yourself. All of the pills come in varying scary prices ranging from anywhere from $0.25 to probably $20 or higher per pill. The doctors or whoever will decide which one to pick, you won't get a choice in it beyond saying you've already tried it and it does nothing. If some worthless pharma rep came in bribing them with dinners and crap to just "talk" about their new overpriced pill and how great it is, you might be stuck having that money maker pushed at you hard whether you want it or not.

As far as I can tell, helping suicidal people is a frighteningly high cost. Those already paid bills that came in the mail were a heart attack just looking at them. Just hundreds and thousands and just multiple bills popping up a week for 2 months. Nobody wants anyone to off themselves, but you can't get help without money and most people don't have that kind of money. I couldn't have paid off those bills with a year's salary they were so high to me even if I somehow magically didn't need to eat or drink anything to live and was homeless never paying a penny for anything other than those bills. I was only there 10 days, some people were there for entire months. If 10 days can hit around $10,000, there's borderline no point in continuing on in life. They will keep you there without any consideration or consent of cost. It's a bill forced upon you against your will. It's like the homeless guy who stands at the corner of the block with a bottle of dirty water and a dirty rag who tries to clean people's already perfectly clean windows when they stop but he only makes them go from clean to mud, and then he demands you pay for the service except in this case you are imprisoned indefinitely against your will without consent and billed mega high for it.

That's all I have from my experience, but I'd imagine it's far worse in other places. If it were affordable I'd recommend going to a center, but those bills were a horror-inducing site for doing the next best thing to staying in a tiny apartment with random staff asking you questions a few times a day and giving you breakfast + lunch + dinner. You'll be a debt slave forever if you walk through those doors without medicaid.

To this day I feel like a piece of crap for how big the bills were, and I paid about $10 total. I intend to never go back to one of those places.


I don't know if the guy who jumped in the volcano ever made any attempt to seek help, but help is a high cost that may very likely yield no actual help in the end and instead bury you alive.