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Rune

"While we are on the topic of updates GSHI has millions of codes added to the site just today, don't dare ask us to show them. but we want to be able to brag about them tho."

Lolz. < 10 codes somehow becomes millions?

You can keep your minimum wage earnings to yourself -- you'll need every last cent!

hiro1112

I see, thats quite brilliant. Taking the code database offline to save bandwidth. Maybe more cheatsites should do that too. I hope Gamefaqs takes all it's faqs offline sometime. The chuck norris image was up for 2 weeks so I know it wasn't a april fools joke. It was a poor attempt to distract people from your site's flaws. While we are on the topic of updates GSHI has millions of codes added to the site just today, don't dare ask us to show them. but we want to be able to brag about them tho.

BTW, I don't think a blonde canadian with rosey red cheeks should be throwing gay jokes. It's like the pot calling the smoke black, or something.

ugetab

For some reason, rune still thinks it's the site that's updating our database and layout and not us...

Rune, if you have bad things to tell our server, talk to it direct!

TheServersMind@thegshi.org


BTW, a public database that can be viewed is is at least 80% better than a public database that can't be viewed.

Rune

Ugetab, you claim to love your logic, and since you don't seem to understand:

The PARCCC is defunct. Do you know what that means? Look it up. Stop spewing paragraphs and wasting everyone's time here. The site existed for years before disappearing.

hiro, your site re-design is crap. Did you forget to do some graphics or is that beyond your site's abilities? .org hasn't had anything redesigned yet, but our adding Chuck Norris was far more ingenious as an April Fool's joke than your basic blog colour scheme. Please tell me that it's April 1st and I won't be laughing at your new design until the new year!

Updates have been coming fast and have been epic. I could have listed all of the hundreds of titles I've added recently but decided to save bandwidth, something Ugetab really needs to do with his nonsense replies. ;-)

Even with the code database down or semi-functional, GSC.org is getting more hits than the GSHI. Lolz!

The GSHI just keeps getting worse and worse, it seems. Why the crap re-design? Your last one at least had a decent colour palette. This new one must be for birds!

LOLZ!

"Most of our activity is behind the scenes; not just at the forums, or even the main site."

So you're saying that GSHI is run by gay people who have orgies, then?

"Judging by your second ignorant jab at our work-in-progress new layout, I'm guessing you missed something, again. Let me reiterate: your code database is down. Your code database is down. Your code database is down."

ZOMG, it's Jacob Three Three Three!

The code database doesn't need to be up and we /still/ get tons of hits.

Your code database is inferior to .org
Your code database is inferior to .org
Your code database is inferior to .org
Your code database is inferior to .org
Your code database is inferior to .org
Your code database is inferior to .org
Your code database is inferior to .org

ugetab

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"Also, the modified date can be altered very easily and I have no doubt you have considered this as well."

I'm referring to the HTTP header, not a matter of the files within the zip. That date is based on the Angelfire server date, which I don't have access to. I'd point you to directions, but you won't seriously respond even if I make good on my evidence. I have zips with individual modules dating back to 7/2/1999. Make an angelfire account and prove the last-modified header can be hacked if you believe it so completely. I used to distribute the modules as I made headway with them. With a simple alghorithm, you can convert the addresses for an SNES game into a PAR cheat. A slightly more complex one can be used for NES. In 1999, I released cheat files for Zelda 3, castlevania 1, chrono trigger, ff5, ogre battle, robotrek, seiken densetsu 3, solar jetman, and super mario rpg. The 'Last-Modified' header can confirm this. Other than that, several weren't released, but used for PAR codes all the same. Someone may have beaten me to some of the addresses, but I've got the better part of 40 more cheat modules for 2000. This being a collective effort that was done about 6 years ago, the quality isn't there, but the proof of when I did the work and what format it was in can still be downloaded if I list the addresses.

Also, I don't just want a verbatim list of stuff I stole from you. That's the same as me saying you stole something, and listing what you stole as proof. Show me a copy of the site I stole from, and I'll show you holes in your logic.
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I can't be someone who steals everything if I didn't steal everything on the PARCCC pages. Without the pages, there's no proof of what codes I may have duplicated(and without those pages, how would I ever be able to check them before posting the codes I made?)

Since I didn't start translating my previous work into PAR codes until sometime late last year, I doubt I had any way of comparing my work against the site you're saying I stole from.

If you accuse me of being unskilled in Gameboy hacking, SNES hacking, NES hacking, or Genesis hacking, then make a reasonable request for me to prove my abilities with. Asking for a translated game would get me asking you to do the same, so go for something doable.

If you've got some other excuse for how I must be stealing, then explain it, don't just quote it.
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Also, are you accusing me of continuing to steal codes now? This seems to be a point of contention I'd like to get in concrete words.

If I am, then I couldn't possibly be skilled enough to fill a request you make, because why would I steal if I can really make the codes myself. If I'm not just stealing them, and I found the memory addresses myself, then you're lying or delusional.
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hiro1112

By saying you don't "need" people to come to your aid you really mean noone gives a sh+ about you. And I don't think you should be critisizing our redesign when your big redesign was to stick a picture of Chuck norris in the place of the iguana. Your site isn't seeing any updates ourside of your little gscentral trademark "updates will resume shortly" thing on the front page. Hell people can't even look at the code archive. At least the real gscentral had that going for them. BTW, great job on the soloness, or solomess you got going, no code database, and when it was there code descriptions were cut off after 50 characters, there were slashes everywhere, and authors were left uncredited. I don't understand how people would accept such low quality. GScentral used to be so much better.

Lazy Bastard

We don't "need" so many people to update codes...whoever sees a topic at the forums requesting to have codes added first adds them. This differs from your method in that the hacker actually requests to have his/her codes added. Anyone wanting to make a database like yours need only read a copy and paste tutorial.

And GSHI doesn't run on steam, silly.

What exactly does "codes that are beyond the capabilities of your site" mean? The site can't hack codes by itself, no. And for you to question the ability of our staff is, again, laughable.

Most of our activity is behind the scenes; not just at the forums, or even the main site. I'm sure someone with an apparently up-to-date, invisible code database can understand that.

Judging by your second ignorant jab at our work-in-progress new layout, I'm guessing you missed something, again. Let me reiterate: your code database is down. Your code database is down. Your code database is down.

Surely you can't miss that.

Rune

hiro, unlike the GSHI, I don't need other people to come to my aid. Is your site so weak as individuals that you require a group consciousness to operate?

On that note, it's sad that your site requires so many people to update a handful of codes. (10) You site is already running out of steam and you don't see it (yet).

Lazy Bastard, my allegations are fine. Isn't it obvious that past members of GSC would never associate themselves with your site? I have never seen Koronix or Macrox post there, likely because they are GSC members and have no interest in dealing with a minor site such as yours. The fact that you have posted hundreds of codes that are beyond the capabilities of your site is reason enough to know that they've been stolen.

Shame that all of your veterans are inactive or code stealers! It's also unfortunate that the number of active members has actively /decreased/ since your site has become 'stronger'. Explain that for me.

Ugetab, I have listed some of the pages you stole under GSCentral.org. There were many. The modified date is irrelevant, as the codes from the PARCCC site were hacked before 2003. Also, the modified date can be altered very easily and I have no doubt you have considered this as well.

That's all that the GSHI will ever be, a site full of stolen or half-baked codes. Just look at your new lay-out
to confirm the lazy efforts of your "coders". :-D

hiro1112

Actually, it goes to show how much your site is a one man show. Which is why no one else from you site cares to come to your defense Rune. GSHI is about teamwork. Your site seems to be about you and your conceit shows.

ugetab

Rune, I'm not trying to convince YOU, I'm trying to convince people who are willing to consider the situation, should they even care.

I have yet to see a copy of PARCCC, with points on what I stole. If you've got some huge page of PARCCC stuff where I stole every code, then show me. If you can't show me, then anyone who's willing to stop and really listen won't believe you. With all the people on your site who seem to have photographic memory as a result of you telling them something, you don't seem to be able to recite to me what you say I've stolen, or prove it with an online copy of the PARCCC. I've given you the address of most of my PAR code work, but you're too stupid to figure out the relation between what I showed you, and how it means I put a copy of it up in 2003.

http://www.angelfire.com/nc/ugetab/ModuleReader/PrelimModules.zip, check the last-modified header date on the file. If you're willing to go through the effort of dumping the .lst files like I was, you'll see the majority of PAR codes I added. I may be able to get something with a 2001 last-modified date on it.

Also, you tout parasyte like he's your mascot. Why don't you have a picture of him on your front page instead of that dragon? Why not sing praise about him and cheer his name if he's such a vital part of your site? I have nothing against parasyte, except for his association with you. I'm sure you can somehow distort this, but for as much good as he's done, I wouldn't want to hang around him if you're what he considers good company.

It's so much harder to respond to people whey they say dumb things, because then you have to account for how dumb they are in your reply, or risk them saying increasingly dumb things to try to compensate for their lack of knowledge.

Lazy Bastard

Dear Rune,

My personal assessment would be that we each outwitted you, in turn. And if you're alone here, it's only because very little of what you say makes sense, and it's hard to follow that kind of act.

Again, let's restate: your code database may indeed be fine, but it's invisible, heh. You should either address the fact that your accusations of GSHI stealing from GSCentral are rather easily disproven, or at least feign even more lack of attention span, and ignore that part of the conversation altogether. You're embarrassing yourself.

Thanks for the well-wishing.

Parasyte is indeed an impressive fellow, and what I'd call a "veteran". It's a shame he's over there and not at the GSHI.

But when you consider Czar Dragon, RPGod, LiquidMan, KingEdgar0, myself (heh, not to be too haughty), and quite a few other vets are GSHI staff, it seems silly to only be able to place one name on the table...Parasyte/Kong K Rool is great, but if all I had to tout was Czar, Czar, Czar...that would just be pathetic.

Heh...if a good ribbing is your game, perhaps YOU should let GSCENTRAL.org die off, and have one of your underlings start up GSCentral.net ;)

Rune

LOL!

Apparently it takes five GSHI members to "outwit" a single GSC member. Too bad that your collective attempts are pathetic at best.

1) Hey Ugetab, I haven't heard any replies about the hundreds of codes you stole from the PARCCC. Highly selective memory indeed!

2) Btw, I recommend learning how to spell next before hacking the DS. :-)

3) The code database is fine. Thanks for asking!

Hiro, you always were good at slitting other people's throats. Good luck on taking over the GSHI when Lazy Bastard gets tired of running the site.

Lazy Bastard, good luck on keeping the site under your control. It looks like you have your work cut-out with your poor choice of administrators.

I wouldn't want to have your moderators when I have the assistance of Parasyte and coders from Datel posting on our boards. Thanks, but we have the game enhancer scene covered just fine. Maybe you should let the GSHI die off for a few years again and bring it back with a new lay-out? ;)

LOL!

ugetab

I thought nensondubois was bad. Rune not only fails at problem solving, but he can't back up his moronic claims either.

1. Accuses us of stealing codes from a site with no code database. Pay us for our techo-telepathic skills you whelp!
2. Takes over 2 months for repairs to even begin on his faulty PHP and HTML(and he accuses US of needing a new coder???)
3. Can't seem to get his facts straight when they either hurt his case or don't help it. Is that more like a politician, or a lawyer?
4. Refuses to respond to those questions that he doesn't have an answer for. How convinient.
5. Has an abundance of followers who have an equivalent lack of knowledge defending him with statements he's made. That could be why they all sound like they've been brainwashed into thinking that anything they hear from him is true...

At least nensondubois tried to explain his nonsense statements, not make the rest of the world out as idiot conspirists for not agreeing with what he says.

hiro1112

Maybe he wants to outdo the original gscentrals nonupdate record, what was that, about 6 months?

Lazy Bastard

It seems it's been significantly longer than a week since your codes were up...as I have no intention of underestimating you, I apologize.
Heheh.

Lazy Bastard

Selective reading, have we? hiro just made the humorous point that your code database has been down for at least a week or so, and the GSHI is still making updates, with codes you don't have; quite contrary to your outlandish claims. You seemed to completely miss this, so I figured I'd set it gently in your face again :)

And for pity's sake, nix the marketing-style slogans that find their (collective) way into every one of your comments...those are only suitable for elementary school pep rallies and one-line exclamations on jars one finds at the supermarket. At best, they kind of make you sound like a Power Ranger.

And, by the way...

Go, Go, G S H I !!!

hiro1112

C'mon, our site is only a year younger than yours. If we were gonna run out of energy we would of done that long ago. Our site has actually grown stronger, it just got a redesign by liquidman zero, and a steady roster of moderators. GSC seems to have always had problem with it's mods. I loved how I would be reprimanded for plugging GSHI, while people could stick links to other cheat sites all over their signatures and posts. Enjoy going at each others throats in your forums Rune.

Rune

GSCentral.org has been given credit to the original hacker, not the first person to copy codes onto a different board, such as GameFAQs, etc. Our credit is 100% accurate.

Your site is going to collapse because I have seen sites come and go, ones that are very similar to your own.

Nice updates. Too bad they usually come after I've already added the codes to GSCentral.org, which consistantly credits the individual responsible for the codes and is the best database for game enhancer codes. Even check the updates page for confirmation that I'm so far ahead from other sites with updates that we're up to August 17th 2006!
Joe Schmoe can easily see that our updates come fast and loaded with codes. Just try and compare your updates with ours and you'll see that there is no competition from your end. You guys aren't in the same league as GSCentral.org.

Time to switch sites -- GSCentral.org cannot be beat.

A lesser known hacker

"The Day I posted my Tony Hawks Underground and Tony Hawks Underground 2 codes at the GSHI, I see them posted at the GSHI. It's in the July 11th update."

Sorry, it's supposed to be

The Day I posted my Tony Hawks Underground and Tony Hawks Underground 2 codes at the GSHI, I see them posted at the GSC. It's in the July 11th update

A lesser known hacker

Well, ever since I started posting Gameboy Advanced Codebreaker codes at the GSHI, a few days later, I would see it in the GSC's update logger thingy.

Lets see..

The Day I posted my Tony Hawks Underground and Tony Hawks Underground 2 codes at the GSHI, I see them posted at the GSHI. It's in the July 11th update.

Lets seee.

Double Dragon Advanced (U) (Master Offlne File) (CB/GBA)
Dynasty Warriors Advanced (E) (Master Offlne File) (CB/GBA)
Cars (U) (Master Offlne File) (CB/GBA)
Pirates of The Carribbean: Dead Man's Chest (U) (Master Offlne File) (CB/GBA)

Okay, I post all of those over at the GSHI, and two days later, they're in the July 11th update, also.



Also, I don't mean to be slandering or tarnishing, but a lot of the current generation code updates the GSC seem to be just official codes.

This was posted on 8-15-06

hiro1112

It's easy to say everyone is given credit when the entire code database is offline. Your code credit was really hit and miss. Your archives gave everyone credit, but then after that some people were given credit for their work, and some werent. And quit with the "your all gonna collapse" sctick you got going Rune. That crap might of worked on your old site but it falls on deaf ears here. Also notice that our site continues to have frequent updates even tho Runes site does not. If we were reliant on them would that be happening? Face it Rune, the world does not center around your broken site.

Lazy Bastard

Thanks for the pointers ;)

The word "American" holds no bearing in the phrase "Internet (capitalized for some reason) American white trash". If you were trying to strike an adverse cord with the majority of GSHI staff, which happens to reside in the States, I believe you've failed miserably. Thanks for playing, though.

You're right; if GSHI was "an inferior clone of GSCentral.org"...a phrase you all (notice the very non-white-trash separation) seem to use verbatim rather often (for which, it seems, you impressively used both copy AND paste)...no one would want to sign up. Good call.

ugetab is one of the most highly skilled and...cognitively able people in the "scene"...while it's always possible anyone could commit any injustice, I highly doubt he would steal very much of anything, particularly credit for codes. However, as I do enjoy being absolutely appraised of the situation, I will look very deeply into this PARCCC accusation. Let me know if you have any good links, or a copy of something that seems to have been "stolen".

I failed to meet my site reform deadline, you say? Damn!

We're currently in the middle of a large revision of the entire site. Thanks for the constructive criticism, though.

Rune

If your staff doesn't fall apart from its many psychological problems first, you mean.

Proper credit wasn't being given from the very beginning at your website. It's Internet American white trash through and through. I am surprised that anyone would want to sign up knowing that your site is an inferior clone of gscentral.org. Ugetab has been credited for the codes he has hacked. The hundreds of codes he blatantly copied from the now-defunct PARCCC are not his and will not be credited to him at .org. You had your opportunity to reform your site but you failed to do so.

By the way, I strongly suggest firing whoever did your HTML and PHP coding. If that is an example of your "quality", it's time to raise your standards.

Lazy Bastard

(in order of importance) [heh]

Modman: Amy has not been staff for a little while now. I finally decided she'd just gone too far. She used to be a fairly decent member of the "scene", but now she's just a psycho. Heh. I used to try to help her through her general stupidity, and coach her, after a fashion, into not being so dense, but alas, it's a lost cause. As for being a decent person, the same extends to you.

GSHI H8^er: Is your aunt hot? Heheh...

Rune: A little further in the future, we'll look back at this and laugh. We at the GSHI, I mean.

While I never got involved in the whole issue personally, I like how you continued to put ugetab's codes up without his permission, then when some GSHI staff member(s) did the same to yours, you brought that up as if it were important. A better response would either have been acceptance, as would be indicative of someone with sensibility and a sense of principle, or realization of your being wrong in the first place.

And I can't believe you'd even attempt to bring up the quality of your staff...as if that were worth comparison.

Again, laughable.

Modman

Lazy Bastard, I give you kudos for being a very decent person. However, .org is my home and administrators like Amy lead me to question your judgement. You may have a decent code database, but .org's tops everyone. As far as comparing databases, there's no need. The majority of codes in youra are already in ours most likely because they were there first. I'm not accusing you personally of stealing our codes, just of not being thorough in the approval of the codes being submitted to your database. And like I said, the credibility of your site would be a lot higher if amy wasn't in a management position.

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